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Prejudice, damned prejudice

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6 months 4 weeks ago #28262 by myalgic1
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Has anyone suffered prejudice meted out by a health professional, due to the medication regime used to help manage pain? I'm so fed up at the moment, after having been told by my optometrist that, '30mgs of oxycontin a day is a very high dose', (which it isn't. As per QLD Health clinician guidelines, 5mg is a low dose and 80mg is a high dose). It seems that every time I see a health professional other than my normal GP, I am told by said professional that I am addicted to opiates and that my lfie would be soooo much better without them. I was on quite a high dose a number of years ago, as I had to continue working full time, to keep a roof over our head, but halved that dose successfully. I feel that I shouldn't have to justify my use of low dose opioids to anyone, other than my GP and her practice fellows. Does anyone else get the shtis over this? Or am I jsut having a bad day?

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6 months 4 weeks ago #28266 by Johnno
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Myalgic,
The only people who can make comment about your medication dosage is the prescriber (not an optometrist) or your pharmacist again ( not a bloody optometrist).
Sometimes when you believe you can talk to someone about the road you are travelling DONT been there done that a cried my eyes out and contemplated the end game so next time if someone makes comment Ask if they are a registered doctor,pain physician,surgeon or a pharmacist and forget the optometrist as I think you should tell him his job is eyes !
Saying that I do know that pain specialists and the like (non pain sufferers ) are trying to lower the amount that people are using ,I was on a pain seminar last year at Royal Brisbane Women’s Hospital and this was brought up by a leading lady professional (non pain sufferers) and she stated the opioid use had risen from 25 million doses to over 100 million doses over a ten year period .
I mulled this snippet over till Q&A and I stated to her that GPs are front line and they are required to know a lot about the whole body specialists specialize in certain fields only and perhaps the front line doctors have found something that works , there was a noted awkward silence as I am a user or as we like to say a pain sufferer.
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6 months 3 weeks ago - 6 months 3 weeks ago #28267 by myalgic1
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Thanks, Johnno...

You've made me feel a bit better about it all and have a very good idea of what you mean when you talk about ending it. Was there last year. Ordinarily, I would've dazzled the optician with my acerbic wit, cynical mindset and medical facts, but because I'm in the midst of a flare up at the moment, my mental strength is depleted and it was all I could do to get out of the damned examination chair without my back freezing in place and hobbling out of her lair like the Hunchback of Notredam. I've decided that I shall no longer use that optician, for a start, but my ego is still a little bruised from the experience. So very sick of people within the health industry, but not necessarily trained in persistent pain, passing judgement upon someone they've only just met, based on the scant information that is passed out on an initial appointment. Surely, there is something that can be done, to prevent these people from articulating judgement on a topic they have little knowledge in?
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6 months 3 weeks ago #28268 by Peter
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I don't tell any of these other health professionals what medication I take if it is of no use to them. If they want to know, I tell them and if they comment, I never really answer them. It is none of their business and you are not compelled to answer them.

Even a pharmacist who has a go at you for taking these drugs, you simply tell them that they are not a clinician and have no authority to be speaking to you about your medication if it has been properly prescribed by a doctor. The only time they can say anything is if they believe there could be consequences taking a drug due to clashing with a drug you already take.

To some people this anti-Opioid business has become a crusade and they get on some bandwagon and decide they are going to convert everyone to the useless drug of panadol osteo.

Just tell them it's none of their business and leave it at that!


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6 months 3 weeks ago #28269 by myalgic1
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Thanks, Peter...

I thought I was doing the right thing by providing my medical details on the form that was given to me, prior to seeing the optometrist. I thought that because I was supposed to be seeing her to rule out occular migraine and glaucoma, that handing over my details was pertinent to my appointment with her. This experinece has taught me to be less accommodating when asked for sensitive medical details and in future, I shall certainly take up your suggestion and tell them nothing. If they have to know, they can liase with my GP. This sort of casual prejudice must happen to loads of persistent pain people and it's high time it is stopped. If, when you went to the supermarket, a check out worker asked if you'd had sex that morning, you'd tell them to mind their own business, (unless you want to boast :D), so why do dentists, optometrists and the like demand your details, if it bears no relevance?

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6 months 3 weeks ago #28270 by Peter
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If it is necessary for them to know what drugs you are taking, because they are going to give you some sort of drug, especially an anesthetic, then you would have to tell them what you are taking and how much, because it may have some bearing on whether or not they can give you the drug they are intending on giving. For instance, if the Dentist was going to give you happy gas or need to give you some other medication. They would need to know if there is a possibility of negative interactions.

However, what you tell them should only be of concern for them, if it is going to impinge on what they want to do with you. They have no right to be quizzing you making any judgements on the reasons you are taking these drugs. More educated and more authorised physicians than they are, have properly prescribed these drugs for you and it is no one else's business and they have no right to comment.

It's best to just respond to them that they are not your pain specialist, so they really don't have a right to comment.

I wish the ring (this Chronic Pain) had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened. (Frodo Baggins)

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to us. (Gandalf the Grey)
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